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allbingoHello and welcome to day 2 of April's Ninja Turtle bingo fest! Let's talk about cartoons and comics, terrapin-themed or no. :D
Feel free to chat about the bingo process, Ninja Turtles in specific or cartoons in general, or ask questions if you're curious or confused about the franchise or any fandom-specific bingo terms and I'll do my best to answer! Here are some potential questions to get started:
Do you have a favorite cartoon?
Did/do you or a family member ever watch Saturday morning cartoons? Do you have any fond memories of that?
Do you have a favorite comic book or comic strip?
If you were a cartoonist or comic book artist, what sort of comic or cartoon would you want to make? Would you want to create something new, or adapt something that already exists?
Have you ever seen or read any of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise? If so, do you have a favorite version or favorite character?
The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were created partly as parody of the Marvel character Daredevil. They share an origin story!
A child sees a blind man crossing the street, about to be hit by a truck, and runs to push the man out of the way. The truck swerves, causing a canister of mysterious liquid to tumble out and spill onto the road.
-In Daredevil, it splashes into the child's eyes and blinds him, giving Matt supersenses.
-In TMNT, it splashes onto the newly purchased baby turtles dropped by the child, washing them down into the sewers and mutating them, along with their adoptive father!
-Matt is trained by Stick. The turtles are trained by Splinter.
-Matt battles the Hand ninja clan, while the Turtles take on the Foot.
The creators of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles intended for it to be very dark and serious.
The original comic run is not for the faint of heart! It's a story about bloody revenge. When Playmates Toys purchased the rights to the Turtles, they wouldn't release toys unless they could be marketed better to kids, and thus the 1987 cartoon was produced. Since then, the franchise has fluctuated between goofy and dark, working to find a good balance between the two.
In the UK, the TMNT were for a time censored to be the 'Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles'.
In the UK in the 80s-90s, there was a big movement against violence in media, and the concept of a 'ninja' had to go. For the TMNT cartoon, every mention of 'ninja' was edited out to be 'hero', in theme songs, product packaging, posters, and more. The live action movies were able to get away with a little more since they were aimed at an older audience, but Michelangelo's nunchucks in particular were a no-go! He wasn't even allowed to use sausage links as improvised nunchucks, as per this quote from the British Board of Film Classification: "After turtle takes down sausages and uses them as a flail. Reduce to minimum dazzling display of swinging sausages indistinguishable from chainsticks."
The Turtles cross over frequently with Usagi Yojimbo.
While the Turtles have met Batman, the Power Rangers, and the Ghostbusters team, among others, their most frequent crossover is with another comic series that also began in 1984. Created by Stan Sakai, Usagi Yojimbo is about Miyamoto Usagi, a rabbit samurai wandering anthropomorphic Edo-period Japan. Usagi has appeared in various TMNT comics, the 1987 cartoon, the 2003 cartoon, the 2012 cartoon, and several video games, as well as being referenced in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III.
Usagi often gets along especially well with Leonardo, as they both wield swords and fight with a very strict sense of honor.
The cover of TMNT/Usagi Yojimbo WhereWhen #1, with Usagi on the far right and Leo standing next to him, both with big smiles.
Feel free to chat about the bingo process, Ninja Turtles in specific or cartoons in general, or ask questions if you're curious or confused about the franchise or any fandom-specific bingo terms and I'll do my best to answer! Here are some potential questions to get started:
Do you have a favorite cartoon?
Did/do you or a family member ever watch Saturday morning cartoons? Do you have any fond memories of that?
Do you have a favorite comic book or comic strip?
If you were a cartoonist or comic book artist, what sort of comic or cartoon would you want to make? Would you want to create something new, or adapt something that already exists?
Have you ever seen or read any of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise? If so, do you have a favorite version or favorite character?
The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were created partly as parody of the Marvel character Daredevil. They share an origin story!
A child sees a blind man crossing the street, about to be hit by a truck, and runs to push the man out of the way. The truck swerves, causing a canister of mysterious liquid to tumble out and spill onto the road.
-In Daredevil, it splashes into the child's eyes and blinds him, giving Matt supersenses.
-In TMNT, it splashes onto the newly purchased baby turtles dropped by the child, washing them down into the sewers and mutating them, along with their adoptive father!
-Matt is trained by Stick. The turtles are trained by Splinter.
-Matt battles the Hand ninja clan, while the Turtles take on the Foot.
The creators of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles intended for it to be very dark and serious.
The original comic run is not for the faint of heart! It's a story about bloody revenge. When Playmates Toys purchased the rights to the Turtles, they wouldn't release toys unless they could be marketed better to kids, and thus the 1987 cartoon was produced. Since then, the franchise has fluctuated between goofy and dark, working to find a good balance between the two.
In the UK, the TMNT were for a time censored to be the 'Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles'.
In the UK in the 80s-90s, there was a big movement against violence in media, and the concept of a 'ninja' had to go. For the TMNT cartoon, every mention of 'ninja' was edited out to be 'hero', in theme songs, product packaging, posters, and more. The live action movies were able to get away with a little more since they were aimed at an older audience, but Michelangelo's nunchucks in particular were a no-go! He wasn't even allowed to use sausage links as improvised nunchucks, as per this quote from the British Board of Film Classification: "After turtle takes down sausages and uses them as a flail. Reduce to minimum dazzling display of swinging sausages indistinguishable from chainsticks."
The Turtles cross over frequently with Usagi Yojimbo.
While the Turtles have met Batman, the Power Rangers, and the Ghostbusters team, among others, their most frequent crossover is with another comic series that also began in 1984. Created by Stan Sakai, Usagi Yojimbo is about Miyamoto Usagi, a rabbit samurai wandering anthropomorphic Edo-period Japan. Usagi has appeared in various TMNT comics, the 1987 cartoon, the 2003 cartoon, the 2012 cartoon, and several video games, as well as being referenced in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III.
Usagi often gets along especially well with Leonardo, as they both wield swords and fight with a very strict sense of honor.
The cover of TMNT/Usagi Yojimbo WhereWhen #1, with Usagi on the far right and Leo standing next to him, both with big smiles.
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Date: 2024-04-02 03:59 pm (UTC)Haven’t gotten into the recent stuff. The movie from last years looks fun though.
And I’m taking a look at the Bingo cards 😃
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Date: 2024-04-03 11:10 pm (UTC)Last year's movie was definitely fun!
Yes ...
Date: 2024-04-04 04:27 am (UTC)I wasn't a dedicated fan but did watch some of the 1987 series.
>> Haven’t gotten into the recent stuff. The movie from last years looks fun though. <<
I thought the trailer looked cool.
>> And I’m taking a look at the Bingo cards <<
Go for it! I have mine. There's a public 2x2 card with just the colors that should be easy.
Thoughts
Date: 2024-04-02 05:41 pm (UTC)I could never whittle it down to one! My most favorite recent animated movie is Nimona. My most favorite recent animated series is The Dragon Prince. I grew up watching cartoons in the 1970s-1980s. However, early cable television relied a lot on cartoon archives and my partner is a huge animation fan, so I've seen a ton of stuff from earlier and later. And by earlier I mean things like "Gertie the Dinosaur."
Did/do you or a family member ever watch Saturday morning cartoons? Do you have any fond memories of that?
Yes and yes. :D A favorite tradition. One of my favorites from that was Thundarr the Barbarian.
Do you have a favorite comic book or comic strip?
Again, I could never narrow it down, so among the favorites are Elfquest and Calvin and Hobbes.
If you were a cartoonist or comic book artist, what sort of comic or cartoon would you want to make? Would you want to create something new, or adapt something that already exists?
Something new. And I have one series, Schrodinger's Heroes, that occasionally spawns scripts instead of my usual fiction or poetry. I had to go out and buy some instruction books, which is how I discovered Scott McCloud's books. "Black and Blue in Waxahachie" was actually illustrated by someone else, but that version doesn't seem to be linked on the series site.
Have you ever seen or read any of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise? If so, do you have a favorite version or favorite character?
I've seen some of the 1980s cartoon. And trailers for a live-action movie later.
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2024-04-03 11:43 pm (UTC)Ooh, I loved Nimona!
I watched The Dragon Prince season 1 in Swedish to practice my language skills, but for some reason never picked it back up again when the next season came out. Now I want to get back into it!
Wow, Gertie the Dinosaur! I've learned something today :D
>>Again, I could never narrow it down, so among the favorites are Elfquest and Calvin and Hobbes.
I *loved* Elfquest when I was a kid. My library had almost all the volumes. I was so fascinated by that world.
>>Something new. And I have one series, Schrodinger's Heroes, that occasionally spawns scripts instead of my usual fiction or poetry. I had to go out and buy some instruction books, which is how I discovered Scott McCloud's books. "Black and Blue in Waxahachie" was actually illustrated by someone else, but that version doesn't seem to be linked on the series site.
I keep hearing you mention Schrodinger's Heroes and I just poked around a little bit on that link - that's cool! Picturing you theoretically making a cartoon/comic out of a script from a TV show that didn't actually exist is kind of wild. :D
>>I've seen some of the 1980s cartoon. And trailers for a live-action movie later.
The 80s cartoon had such a big impact on collective culture at the time. I was expecting to get a lot of the 80s cartoon as the answer to this question, and so far I'm not surprised!
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2024-04-04 04:34 am (UTC)I love seeing a polymorph in action. :D
>> I watched The Dragon Prince season 1 in Swedish to practice my language skills, but for some reason never picked it back up again when the next season came out. Now I want to get back into it! <<
You should. It gets even better as it goes along.
>> Wow, Gertie the Dinosaur! I've learned something today :D
Some of the oldest cartoons are the most interesting to watch for historic context. The modern stuff may have much better cinematography but it's hard to find really likeable characters.
Ever watch Biker Mice from Mars? If you like TMNT, you'll probably like that one too.
>> I *loved* Elfquest when I was a kid. My library had almost all the volumes. I was so fascinated by that world.<<
It's a great setting with a lot of potential.
>> I keep hearing you mention Schrodinger's Heroes and I just poked around a little bit on that link - that's cool! Picturing you theoretically making a cartoon/comic out of a script from a TV show that didn't actually exist is kind of wild. :D
Check out LOL_HEROES.
The Blueshift Troupers is another open-source fandom that lends itself well to multimedia, but so far only Schrodinger's seems to move me to writing scripts, and I have no idea why.
>> The 80s cartoon had such a big impact on collective culture at the time. I was expecting to get a lot of the 80s cartoon as the answer to this question, and so far I'm not surprised! <<
It fits with the bingo, and a lot of people who are animation fans saw the original cartoon.
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Date: 2024-04-03 03:21 am (UTC)Did/do you or a family member ever watch Saturday morning cartoons? Do you have any fond memories of that? I lived for it. It was something I looked forward to all week long even into my teen years.
Do you have a favorite comic book or comic strip? I was big into the X-Men and associated books, Sandman and Hellblazer. I have so much manga in this house I could build a house from the books.
If you were a cartoonist or comic book artist, what sort of comic or cartoon would you want to make? Would you want to create something new, or adapt something that already exists? I would love to do sequels of Fullmetal Alchemist and The Owl House but I'm working on (tonight) a horror short for consideration to be turned into a comic book. So for me it would be the horror/fantasy/urban fantasy/SF type of thing
Have you ever seen or read any of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise? If so, do you have a favorite version or favorite character? I haven't read any of it in decades but I did like the cartoon back in the day
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Date: 2024-04-03 11:55 pm (UTC)Wow, good luck on your horror short. That's awesome.
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Date: 2024-04-04 03:07 am (UTC)And thanks
Thoughts
Date: 2024-04-04 04:37 am (UTC)Have you see the Scooby Doo / Supernatural crossover episode?
>> I was big into the X-Men and associated books, Sandman and Hellblazer. <<
I know those mostly from film adaptations, but I do like them. The latest Sandman TV show was hilarious. I kept wanting to plop him in a chair, summon my library, and explain how to run a dreamworld without it falling apart around your ears while your egregores run off to play with the humans.
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2024-04-04 05:39 pm (UTC)I was sad Hellblazer got canceled as a show. Sandman was fun. Sandman was my first intro to Neil Gaiman and it's still my favorite by him. By pure chance I got in with this on the very first volume and I own the entire run
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Date: 2024-04-04 12:12 am (UTC)Did/do you or a family member ever watch Saturday morning cartoons? Do you have any fond memories of that? I loved Saturday morning cartoons! We didn't have cable, so we had to wait for Cartoon Network and Nick shows to filter down to us on Kids WB, One Saturday Morning, etc. One of our favorite channels was 4kids TV, which was known for its questionable anime dubs, but the one single thing they did really right was produce a solid TMNT cartoon!
Do you have a favorite comic book or comic strip? I read a lot of Spider-Man comics, both 616 and Ultimatesverse, growing up. I loved Marvel in general, but Spider-Man in particular. My library had Elfquest which I devoured. I think one of my favorite graphic novels was 'Superman: Secret Identity' written by Kurt Busiek and illustrated by Stuart Immonen. For some reason, the story really stuck with me.
If you were a cartoonist or comic book artist, what sort of comic or cartoon would you want to make? Would you want to create something new, or adapt something that already exists? I'd love to get Danny Phantom out of Butch Hartman's hands and do something actually good with it in a reboot. Make the (unintentional???) trans metaphor no longer just a metaphor, build up the lore about the ghost zone and how it works a little more, really lean into the coming of age story. It would be fun.
Have you ever seen or read any of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise? If so, do you have a favorite version or favorite character? My favorite iteration of the franchise will probably always be 2003. I've been doing a rewatch recently with a fan upscale project that got it up to 1080p, and I feel like it still holds up really well. My favorite character was/is Donatello!